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creatine
Creatine's well-established chronic benefits for lean mass, strength, and performance require weeks of saturation, but the video reports on a recent study finding that a single very high acute dose (0.35 g/kg) of creatine may attenuate declines in brain metabolites, brain pH, and cognitive function caused by 21 hours of sleep deprivation, while creatine monohydrate remains, in Norton's view, the safest, cheapest, and best-supported form regardless of the cognitive angle.
Creatine's established physical benefits (lean mass, strength, performance) require consistent dosing over time (typically 5 g/day) to saturate muscle phosphocreatine stores; a single acute dose does not produce those benefits.
A recent study sleep-deprived subjects for 21 hours, then gave a one-time high dose of creatine (0.35 g/kg, equivalent to just over 30 g for Norton) 3-4 hours before running a battery of cognitive tests and measuring brain metabolites and brain pH.
The high acute dose of creatine appeared to prevent or reduce the drop in certain brain metabolites and brain pH associated with sleep deprivation, though it did not fully offset sleep deprivation's effects on cognition.
Norton's takeaway: a high dose of creatine may help attenuate losses in cognitive function from sleep deprivation, potentially useful after an all-nighter, during high stress with poor sleep, or before tasks requiring acute cognitive performance.
It's unknown whether people who already take creatine consistently (with saturated muscle stores) would get the same acute cognitive benefit from a high one-time dose, since it's unclear whether brain/CNS creatine saturation dynamics mirror muscle saturation, given the blood-brain barrier's selectivity.
Creatine monohydrate is the recommended form: it is low-cost and stable in stomach acid, so it does not need buffering, and research comparing buffered (pH-balanced) creatin to plain monohydrate shows the same benefits despite buffered versions costing three to four times as much.
Creatine ethyl ester, popular roughly 10-15 years ago, was shown to be less bioavailable than creatine monohydrate.
Creatine hydrochloride (HCl) is more soluble and easier to mix, and some have postulated a smaller effective dose is possible, but per effective dose it is still more expensive than monohydrate; it may make sense only for people who are very GI-sensitive to creatine.
In the discussed study, no participants had GI side effects, which Norton attributes partly to solubility and adequate water intake; he recommends micronized creatine monohydrate and, for GI-sensitive people, splitting the daily dose into smaller amounts (e.g., multiple 2.5 g or 1-2 g doses) instead of one 5 g dose.
Getting sufficient creatine from red meat is impractical: there is roughly 1 (possibly up to 1.5) gram of creatine per pound of meat, cooking destroys about half of it as bioavailable, and about 7 lbs of red meat per day would be needed to get enough creatine, which is far more expensive than supplementing.
People who report no effect from creatine are usually either inconsistent with training and nutrition (masking a relatively small but real benefit) or are 'non-responders' whose muscle phosphocreatine stores are already saturated, though the new study suggests even non-responders may still get cognitive benefits.
Most safety concerns about creatine (kidney harm, liver harm, increased disease risk) have been put to rest by the data Norton references.
The hair-loss concern about creatine traces to a single, never-repeated 2009 mechanistic study showing an increase in DHT with creatine supplementation, which did not directly measure hair loss and did not show changes in any other sex hormone.
Norton argues that if the DHT/hair-loss effect were real, follow-up studies would have confirmed it by now, and none have; Outwork Nutrition's recovery product contains 5 g of creatine monohydrate as part of its recovery blend.
The video draws a mechanistic distinction between chronic, saturation-dependent muscle benefits and a demonstrated acute single-dose cognitive benefit, implying muscle and brain creatine kinetics may follow different rules.
Norton explicitly flags as speculation the hypothesis that the blood-brain barrier's selectivity could mean the brain requires a different (possibly higher) saturation threshold than muscle, rather than presenting it as established fact.
The case against buffered or HCl creatine is framed as economic (cost per effective dose) rather than about efficacy, reframing the 'better form' marketing debate as markup rather than science.
Norton uses a concrete quantitative rebuttal (roughly 1-1.5 g creatine per pound of meat, ~50% lost to cooking, ~7 lbs/day needed) to counter Paul Saladino's claim on The Joe Rogan Experience that a meat-based diet obviates creatine supplementation.
The suggestion that muscle-saturated 'non-responders' might still gain cognitive benefits implies the cognitive and physical benefit pathways of creatine may be at least partly independent of each other.
«we have known for a long time that creatin is awesome for muscle it's not a steroid it's not going to blow you up it's not going to turn you into arold Schwarz aega»
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«they gave them. 35 G of creatin per kilogram a one-time dose»
— 02:08
«creatin prevented the drop or the changes in some of these metabolites in the brain it prevented the drop in pH in the brain»
— 02:51
«at least a high dosage of creatin may help attenuate losses in cognitive function from sleep deprivation»
— 03:29
«if you're paying for any other form of creatin you're being scammed»
— 05:23
«safety Effectiveness for cost there is no supplement that beats creatin there's no supplement that beats creatin monohydrate»
— 07:19
«you would need about like 7 lbs of red meat per day to get enough creatin»
— 08:01
«the one one thing that people keep coming back to with creatin is well it causes hair loss not based on the data we have»
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Reception
Mostly positive reception with users sharing personal benefits and praising the scientific analysis, though some skepticism about optimal dosing and potential side effects persists.
Norton clearly separates the well-established, saturation-dependent physical benefits of creatine from a single new study's preliminary finding on acute high-dose cognitive protection under sleep deprivation, repeatedly flagging the latter as one study and speculating openly rather than overstating certainty, while delivering confident, well-supported practical guidance favoring plain creatine monohydrate.
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