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What Machiavelli Has Taught Me

Robert Greene credits Niccolò Machiavelli as the guiding spirit behind The 48 Laws of Power, singling out Machiavelli's concept of the 'effective truth' — judging people by their actions rather than their self-proclaimed identity — as the idea that has shaped his thinking most, alongside admiration for Machiavelli's courage, realism, and underappreciated range as a writer.

Robert Greene · 2024-05-07 · English

Key ideas

  1. Machiavelli was 'the guiding spirit' behind Greene's The 48 Laws of Power.

  2. Greene bought his first copy of The Prince at 15, drawn to a cover showing a large hand controlling people inside it, a metaphor he found striking.

  3. Greene's childhood sense that people 'wore masks' and pretended to be something they're not made him receptive to Machiavelli's realism.

  4. Machiavelli 'ripped the mask off' people and described the human animal as it is: driven by a desire for power.

  5. Machiavelli wrote about Christian figures like the popes of Italy as though they were Mafia dons pursuing power.

  6. The 'effective truth' (which Greene renders in Italian and says not to quote him on) holds that a person's truth lies in their actions, not in what they claim about themselves.

  7. Greene illustrates the effective truth with the Borgia pope, who claimed to represent Christ on Earth but whose actions revealed he was trying to conquer Italy and build a Vatican empire.

  8. Writing this realism in 1514 was dangerous — it could be scandalous, heretical, and land someone in prison.

  9. Machiavelli's sharp, realist vision is why he is still read 500-plus years later and has influenced leaders across the political spectrum.

  10. Greene says Machiavelli is a far richer writer than his reputation suggests, since most people only know The Prince, which Greene calls his 'most quote unquote evil book.'

  11. Machiavelli's other major works include the Discourses (which Greene calls probably his most brilliant, deeper and more historically detailed work), the Florentine Histories, and The Art of War.

  12. Machiavelli was also a playwright and poet, including the play Mandragola, which Greene describes as the most scandalous play imaginable about Christian religion, and hilarious.

  13. Machiavelli was 'a great Seducer' who had numerous affairs with beautiful women.

  14. Greene feels a personal, almost friendship-like connection to Machiavelli, noting they share nearly the same birthday and imagining Machiavelli would have been one of his best friends.

Insights

Greene explicitly rejects 'cynical' as the right word for Machiavelli, insisting he is instead 'pretty sharp and realistic' — a distinction Greene treats as important.

Greene admits that as a teenager he 'didn't understand a hell of a lot' of The Prince intellectually, suggesting his initial pull toward Machiavelli was emotional and aesthetic (the boldness of the language) rather than comprehension of the ideas.

Greene frames the 'effective truth' not as an abstract concept but through a concrete case: the Borgia pope's rhetorical claim to represent Christ is dismissed as meaningless next to his actual conquest ambitions in Italy.

Greene says he didn't discover Machiavelli's broader body of work — the Discourses, Florentine Histories, Art of War, plays, poetry — until he was older, having initially known him only through The Prince.

Greene links Machiavelli's appeal directly to his own childhood experience of sensing manipulation and people 'wearing masks,' framing his attraction to Machiavelli as personal and psychological rather than purely intellectual.

«I had the sense when I was very young that people wore these masks that they pretend to be something that they're not»

— 00:53

«I believe I bought my first copy of the prince when I was 15 and I very remember the cover of it cuz it was so distinctive it had a large hand on it and there were all these people inside the hand as if the hand was controlling all of these people»

— 00:27

«makavelli just ripped that damn mask off of people's faces and said this is the human animal as it is they want Power»

— 01:45

«he had this idea which to this day um I think about all the time it influences my thoughts called the effective truth»

— 02:04

«look at their actions their actions reveal the effective truth of who they are of what they are want and what they're doing»

— 02:26

«I don't think m is cynical at all that's the wrong word because he's not cynical but pretty sharp and realistic»

— 03:31

«the other thing about Maki that I didn't discover until I was older is that he's a very rich writer people only focus on the prince because that's his most quote unquote evil book but he wrote many other books that have nothing like that»

— 04:11

«he had a play called mandrola which is the most scandalous play you can ever imagine about Christian religion it's hilarious it's really funny and it's a beautiful thing»

— 04:55

«he was by far the guiding Spirit of the 48 Laws of Power so Nicolo wherever you are I thank you»

— 05:42

Reception

Devoted audience members express deep gratitude for Greene's work, while philosophical critics voice substantial concerns about Machiavelli's influence and the promotion of pragmatic amoralism.

This is a short, personal reflection/tribute rather than a systematic teaching of Machiavelli's ideas — it recounts Greene's biographical relationship to Machiavelli and highlights one recurring concept (the 'effective truth') alongside praise for Machiavelli's range as a writer, without attempting to summarize The Prince's arguments comprehensively.

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